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		<title>A Dance with Dragons is *really* complete</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 04:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.keepingthedoor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/adwdcover.jpg"></a></p> <p>Well, we knew that the long-awaited book in George R. R. Martin&#8217;s long-awaited fantasy series A Song of Ice and Fire was ready, but now the author has assured us that the book is *really* ready for its planned launch on the 12 of July this year. <a href="http://grrm.livejournal.com/217066.html">Martin writes in a lengthy [...]]]></description>
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<p>Well, we knew that the long-awaited book in George R. R. Martin&#8217;s long-awaited fantasy series A Song of Ice and Fire was ready, but now the author has assured us that the book is *really* ready for its planned launch on the 12 of July this year. <a href="http://grrm.livejournal.com/217066.html">Martin writes in a lengthy blog post this week</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;That&#8217;s the way it goes with books. You finish, and breathe a sigh of relief &#8230; and then you get back to work. There&#8217;s always more to be done. Your editor reads it and gives you notes. You make revisions, corrections. A copyeditor goes over the text, finds errors, points out contradictions and inconsistencies, raises queries. You fix some, stet others. Friends and fans gulp down the book, and find mistakes your editors, copyeditors, and proofreaders all missed. You fix those too, as time allows. Then there&#8217;s the appendix to prepare. And then the appendix needs to be edited, proofread, corrected&#8230; and on and on it goes&#8230;</p>
<p>But now even that is behind me. Copyediting, appendix, proofs, corrections, all that stuff. The book tour has been planned (a few details yet to be worked out), the marketing plans are in place&#8230; and I can finally say that Kong is not just merely dead, but really most sincerely dead.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>In the blog, Martin also gives a detailed history of the book&#8217;s development over the past half-decade since the last in the series, A Feast for Crows, was released in October 2005 (with a few mild spoilers about which characters will be featured in A Dance with Dragons).</p>
<p>To say that the book is highly anticipated is an understatement. With the exception of the conclusion to The Wheel of Time series that is currently being worked on by Brandon Sanderson after original author Robert Jordan&#8217;s death, there is likely no book right now that fantasy fans around the world want to read more than A Dance with Dragons ;)</p>
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		<title>George R. R. Martin hates A Dance With Dragons delay too</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although there is currently no hard completion date for his new novel A Dance with Dragons, fantasy master George R. R. Martin recently gave an update on how it’s not just the fans and his publishers that are angsty about getting the book out.]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s probably the most eagerly anticipated fantasy book in the genre at the moment: George R. R. Martin&#8217;s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Dance_with_Dragons">A Dance With Dragons</a>, which the author has been writing for at least five years since 2005, when he last published a book in his epic series <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire">A Song of Ice and Fire</a>.</p>
<p>Although there is currently no hard completion date for the book, GRRM recently gave an update on how it&#8217;s not just the fans and his publishers that are angsty about getting the book out. <a href="http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/01/roundtable-discussion-with-grrm/">As summarised by Winter is Coming</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>“You know, it’s no secret that this last book [A Dance with Dragons] has taken much, much longer than I thought it would and much, much longer than anyone wanted it to. My editors and publishers are not happy with that, there’s an element of my fans that are vociferously angry about that, and most of all, I’m unhappy about it. But my goal has always been to make it the story I want to tell and to make it as good as I can.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Martin reportedly said that at a certain point, &#8220;when the stress really got to me&#8221;, he had to stop thinking about how long it takes the author to write a book and just write &#8220;one page at a time, one sentence at a time, one word at a time&#8221; &#8212; without worrying about the fact that he had &#8220;40 chapters left to do&#8221;.</p>
<p>Frankly, I do feel sorry for GRRM.</p>
<p>Not every writer can be as workmanlike as current boy wunderkind Brandon Sanderson, who is currently reliably churning out a major novel each year, and in some ways seems to regard writing as more of a manufacturing process than an art.</p>
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<p>No, GRRM is more case in the mould of a writer like Patrick Rothfuss; a writer that must struggle &#8212; at times desperately &#8212; with their art in an attempt to achieve not only sublimity in their writing, but also the organisation of a complex plot.</p>
<p>And yet, if there is one thing that you can say about GRRM, it is that he has achieved that sublimity in his writing. A Song of Ice and Fire is one of the great modern fantasy epics. Am I impatient for GRRM to finish it? Of course I am. But I&#8217;m content to wait for him to finish it in his own time. We&#8217;re rooting for you, Mr Martin :)</p>
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		<title>GRRM to finish A Dance with Dragons &#8220;soon&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fantasy author George R. R. Martin has told his UK publisher he might hand over A Dance with Dragons, the long-awaited next book in the A Song of Ice and Fire series, “soon”. It is common for fans of the series, one of the major fantasy works currently ongoing, to complain about the length of time taken by Martin to write each new book.]]></description>
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<p>Fantasy author <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_R._R._Martin">George R. R. Martin</a> has told his UK publisher he might hand over <em>A Dance with Dragons</em>, the long-awaited next book in the <em>A Song of Ice and Fire</em> series, “soon”.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.janejohnsonbooks.com/2009/11/meanwhile-in-my-other-life.htm">Writing on her own site</a>, Jane Johnson, fiction publishing director for the HarperCollins Voyager imprint in the UK, said:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“And finally, yesterday I got to spend some time with the legendary George RR Martin, over in the UK to visit the sets where HBO are filming the pilot episode of A GAME OF THRONES, which could be the finest ever tv fantasy epic.<br />
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We have his superb anthology tribute to Jack Vance out this month: the signing queues went round and round the block in Belfast, Dublin and London&#8217;s Forbidden Planet. Oddly, in that strange synchronicity which happens so frequently in my life, George flew out of London for Marrakech this morning, to see the desert and Dothraki scenes being filmed in and around Ouarzazate.<br />
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The really exciting news, other than the potential HBO series, is that we might get the long-awaited DANCE OF DRAGONS soon. I cannot wait.”</p></blockquote>
<p>It is common for fans of the series, one of the major fantasy works currently ongoing, to complain about the length of time taken by Martin to write each new book. Although the first three in the series were published after intervals of about two years each, according to Wikipedia, the fourth book took a little longer; A Feast for Crows came out in 2005 after a five-year writing stint by Martin.</p>
<p>In October Martin revealed <a href="http://www.keepingthedoor.com/2009/10/08/a-dance-with-dragons-hits-1100-pages/">he had written more than 1,100 pages</a> in the book. It was previously expected the book would be ready for editing by October or November this year.</p>
<p><strong>Commentary</strong><br />
I have pretty much given up waiting for this one :) A Dance with Dragons will be ready when it is ready, and that&#8217;s about all I&#8217;m expecting.</p>
<p>(via <a href="http://www.westeros.org/ASoWS/News/Entry/3642/">Westeros.org</a> and <a href="http://www.towerofthehand.com/blog/2009/11/14_uk_publisher_on_adwd/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TowerOfTheHand+%28Tower+of+the+Hand%29">Tower of the Hand</a>)</p>
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		<title>A Dance with Dragons hits 1100 pages</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still a ways to go.]]></description>
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<p>George R. R. Martin has written more than 1,100 pages in <em>A Dance with Dragons</em>, the long-awaited next book in his <em>A Song of Ice and Fire</em> Series.</p>
<p>He had previously hit 1,000 pages in late July, according to his editor, when <a href="http://www.keepingthedoor.com/2009/08/01/grrms-a-dance-with-dragons-almost-finished/">it was expected the book would be ready for editing by October of November</a> this year. <a href="http://grrm.livejournal.com/113041.html">Martin wrote on his blog this week</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Finished a Jon Snow chapter, and have just passed the 1100 page (manuscript pages, the page count in the final printed book will be different) mark on A DANCE WITH DRAGONS. That&#8217;s counting only finished chapters in something close to final form. I have considerably more in partials, fragments, and roughs.</p>
<p>Even with just the finished portions, DANCE is now longer than A FEAST FOR CROWS and A GAME OF THRONES, and I&#8217;m closing in on A CLASH OF KINGS. I do hope I can wrap things up before I approach the 1521 page length of A STORM OF SWORDS.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>It is common for fans of the series, one of the major fantasy works currently ongoing, to complain about the length of time taken by Martin to write each new book. Although the first three in the series were published after intervals of about two years each, according to Wikipedia, the fourth book took a little longer; <em>A Feast for Crows</em> came out in 2005 after a five-year writing stint by Martin.</p>
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		<title>GRRM&#8217;s A Dance with Dragons almost finished?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 02:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[GRRM finishes 1,000 pages.]]></description>
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<p>The next book in <a href="http://georgerrmartin.com/">George R. R. Martin</a>&#8216;s epic fantasy series <em>A Song of Ice and Fire</em> is almost finished, according to <a href="http://www.suvudu.com/">Suvudu</a> blogger and Terry Brooks webmaster Shawn Speakman.</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.terrybrooks.net/PostView.aspx?postid=702841&#038;page=17">On the Terry Brooks forum</a>, Speakman this week reported comments made by Martin&#8217;s editor Anne Groell at the recent Comic-Con conference in the United States to the effect that she expected to get the book by October or November this year. Groell reportedly said she had to answer the same question &#8220;over and over and over again&#8221;.</p>
<p>Writes Speakman:</p>
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&#8220;George has indeed passed the 1000 page mark as of last week and those are, to him according to Anne, finished pages that will not be returned to. He also has several hundred more pages of not completed chapters that every week he makes progress on.</p>
<p>Some of those will be in Dance; others will be in the next book. Anne also thinks she&#8217;ll be getting the book by October or November, which to her would probably make it a February or March 2010 release, although the progress he is making is quickly happening and she could receive it sooner if those incomplete or mostly complete chapters come together faster. I say don&#8217;t get your hopes up.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Martin has several times stated he hopes to finish the book by September or October this year, although he has missed <a href="http://grrm.livejournal.com/74995.html">a previous self-allocated deadline of June</a>.</p>
<p>It is common for fans of the series, one of the major fantasy works currently ongoing, to complain about the length of time taken by Martin to write each new book. Although the first three in the series were published after intervals of about two years each, according to Wikipedia, the fourth booko took a little longer; <em>A Feast for Crows</em> came out in 2005 after a five-year writing stint by Martin.</p>
<p>On his own site, <a href="http://georgerrmartin.com/if-update.html">the author offers a defence</a> for not updating fans more often on his progress:</p>
<blockquote><p>My last formal update on <em>A Dance with Dragons</em> was dated February 15, 2007. If that seems like a long time ago to you, join the queue. It seems like forever and a day to me. When I wrote that update, I was sick of writing updates. So I tried to make that last update the final update, and ended it by saying, &#8220;The next update will be the one that announces that the <em>Dance</em> is done.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>It is now 2008. I&#8217;m still working. There are no short cuts. It&#8217;s a chapter at a time, a page at a time, a word at a time. I&#8217;m further along than I was, but not as far as I would like. During the last year, I had some good days (and months), some bad days (and months), and some days (and months) that I thought were good that turned out to be bad.</p>
<p>The book is getting longer, and more importantly, the book is getting better. I&#8217;ve changed my mind about some of the things I said in earlier updates and on my Live Journal, and I reserve the right to change my mind again, though I am hoping I won&#8217;t have to. Believe me, no one wants to finish this book more than me.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Commentary</strong><br />
You can&#8217;t blame GRRM for taking his time with <em>A Dance With Dragons</em>. The entire <em>A Song of Ice and Fire</em> series was initially planned to be a trilogy. However, like many fantasy authors before him, as the story grew, so did its scope, and the author&#8217;s masterwork has ballooned out into a much bigger tale than he probably initially intended.</p>
<p>It would be criminal to cut that tale short for the sake of pleasing a few impatient fans :)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s plenty of precedent in the science fiction and fantasy book world for this sort of expansion. For example, Robert Jordan initially planned <em>The Wheel of Time</em> to be a six book series: a massive epic even at that stage! Now, the series stands at eleven, with the author having passed away and <a href="http://www.keepingthedoor.com/2009/07/31/next-wheel-of-time-book-the-first-review/">a further three books planned by Brandon Sanderson to finish it off.</a></p>
<p>Like Jordan during the latter part of The Wheel of Time, Martin appears to be struggling with how to wrap all the threads in his expanding world together so that <em>The Song of Ice and Fire</em> can be satisfactorily concluded. From what we know, there are just three more books planned; <em>A Dance with Dragons</em> (expected in early 2010), <em>The Winds of Winter</em>, and <em>A Dream of Spring</em>.</p>
<p>The optimistic working title of the final book would seem to suggest it will be the final book in the series, although no doubt achieving such a conclusion will prove hard for Martin. As recently as the last published book, <em>A Feast for Crows</em>, Martin was still introducing new characters. Of course, the author is known for killing off characters at need, in his gritty and realistic style, so we shouldn&#8217;t be too shocked if enough die off to make resolving the convoluted plot a little easier :)</p>
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